colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs

You actually had to know UNIX to get to things. There is such a thing as common sense and courtesy. Plenty of people are interested in exploring the question on where the lines are on this stuff without being motivated by a desire to do it themselves, simply because its an interesting question. I stupidly hadnt googled myself for a year or two and recently did when AAM had a letter about snooping. I regularly do this sort of snooping on coworkers, healthcare providers, etc. Call (225) 687-7590 or little caesars crust ingredients today! I think the true universal is what Alison picked up on; why are you telling the person youre looking into them? I am 90% sure he was not doing it on purpose, he had just picked up the language like people say btw and lol in conversation now. It is PUBLICITY. In the new digital age there is new fear of someone trying to purposely smear your reputation, by creating a fake online profile of someone and posting all kinds of questionable and inappropriate content. I have a coworker who makes a point of saying how she has googled all of us in our unit to find out our ages, and makes comments on things she has found on peoples social media, so she must be googling us regularly. I think youre a good manager for thinking of it!. Its all about purpose and intent. He sounded interesting! And for those of us who are living in a time and place where its not necessarily safe to tell people about who we are in a get to know you conversation, I sure as hell am going to check on people before opening up too much to them, at least to the extent Im able to by what they choose to say about themselves on the internet. That way the at home-ers can also have the same pizza. So I agree with you that this information is on a slightly different level than social media stuff. Why would I want to get to know someone if their social media has a bunch of homophobic stuff, for example? This is a touchy issue for me. Learning that a direct report has researched their managers resume and background just to figure out how to talk to them just feels off. I would cringe so hard at telling someone that wed reimburse them for lunch as a perk but I see the thought behind it at least. Its one thing to dig through the caverns of the internet to get old information that a person may have no control over being public. Its just that theres very little stop them from doing it if they are so inclined, just like theres very little to stop someone stealing stuff out of an unlocked car. Youre wrong. Yes. I never joined the society and forgot about it. That was fine, thats why we were hired after all. I do think, however, that references should have some idea of the positions/levels you are applying for, though I doubt that would have helped in this case. Thats a big YIKES. I tend to go to the same supermarket around the same time on the same day, the people who are there will see me and learn that I shop on a regular schedule. My LinkedIn profile is a boring resume with history, not a snapshot of where I am in the moment. If so, Im sorry. So, if someone puts an early job on their LinkedIn, I think it would be a little weird but OK if a new colleague said, Oh, I was looking at your LinkedIn, and you worked at Company X years ago. There are plenty of perfectly legal behaviors that are nonetheless creepy. If you opt for gift cards or similar for them, make sure they actually have access to the stores! I know one other person who likes this combo- my brother. Those who have flagged for us no gifts are usually working on gov contract work. Equating googling someone to making people wonder if youre a creepy stalker is really unfair. Thats a benign example because I dont care if my coworkers know I was a mediocre tennis player in high school, but a lot of peoples internet presences arent entirely self-created. With the EU right to be forgotten thing, if you request that your information be removed from their records and a company argues that they need it, then they by law can still keep it. Dont post it. Didnt pass the background check. A lot of colleges and universities now have policies now that range from the draconian (youre not allowed to accept anything from a vendor, even a .50 cent pen) to more reasonable (if its out on a table, you can take it, but nothing thats a special gift, meals under a certain $ amount). Or maybe, would you be embarrassed if your colleague learned that you were looking them up like that? With that said, I dont think googling someone is a big deal, honestly. If youre just looking up a coworkers linkedin profile or website to get a sense of their professional background, I think most people would consider that fine. It was apparently a reference so obscure and specific that all the search results were stuff related to his username on various sites. And When you install this update, it will send alerts to everyone in your contacts about what song youre listening to and webpage youre looking at RIGHT NOW! Omigod turn that off. But you people said you wanted to use the web to connect.. Also, not everyone loves what everyone else is happy about in an office anyway. Sponsor or chair an industry or company event? That is utterly absurd. Information on _______ features is not the only thing that scientists get from EOS data. If you are asking to be managed more and they think their role is one with more basic strategic oversight while you handle team management I could see where theyd think you needed management training. You can do it, but you shouldnt really. There is a difference between looking at what people put online freely which I think is more like viewing their lawn decorations / house maintenance / brilliantly lit Christmas tree in their front window and what is online about them. Motivation and depth of research make a big difference, though. Was there any way to save it, or did you just have to get out? They cannot help their own (in the US) agism. With the blog post in play I can see it, butif the team has someone who never feels safe around men of certain races, you are going to invite problems and that person *honestly gets a threatening vibe* from them *because of the internalized bias*they could be honest, well-meaning, and still a racism problem for your team. We heard Llama instagram and immediately tried to find it together. Sure that sucks but its the nature of the internet. Even if you dont have any nefarious motives other than nosiness, youll really have to make sure you dont reveal what you know, or your coworkers will be creeped out. The folks who think that Googling someones professional info are really confusing me. She expressed surprise that this had happened and said that when, during the reference check conversation, the hiring manager had asked her for my former salary so that they could make me a fair offer, she told them, but advocated for a salary about 5% more than that for me. Then the editor (20 years later) decided to put it all out on the internet. A major false equivalency. The key is to focus completely on the other person. Theyre not a gov agency but because they work with so many of their projects, not even candy is acceptable. Hi, OP what youre describing here is pretty typical, and could be one of the few good things LinkedIn can do. However if you want to know my background and ask me about my research I am very happy to tell you all about it. Also, when everyone is in the same office you can note that the cheese and cracker spread lasted all day while the lemon bars vanished in an hourwith remote people you arent getting the same visual feedback about what was a widely appealing choice and what flopped. My bedroom windows face directly into another building behind me. The internet didnt make it public, its just another outlet to access it. #1, Companies do background checks all the time which can reveal far more than anything posted on Facebook, etc. Or maybe Ill go to a tradeshow, collect all the swag I can get my hands on, and submit individual disclosures on each item. But it would be creepy if they walked right up to your window and cupped their hands on the glass to peer in, or climbed up a tree to get a better view into the second level of your house, or used binoculars to get a closer look. I just dont see how reading anything personal is relevant. Too much stuff! Why would they bother? When head office people brought in food/sweets to share theyd use the All Staff email list as there was no head office only list, and send a note saying chocolate in the kitchen etc. Thats not a typical situation. And its a good thing I didabout a month into the internship, she wrote a lengthy unflattering post about a client of ours, using their full name and the name of their project. I should note people are all about privacy in Idaho. But idle curiosity leads to bad knowledge youd rather not have. draw such a clear boundary. And housemate isnt a professional relationship, I think different rules apply. Along with job title? Bad Behavior Your coworkers might just be nosy, prying into your personal life and gossiping about you when you're not around. Its still the fifth or sixth result when you google me, even though I never gave my permission for them to do that and was never associated with their society. When we have food, typically either donuts or pizza lunches, then the other sites are asked to buy their own within a max $ and then send us the receipt for reimbursement. the gift of the nile colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs In this case, our OP didnt put it out there. Otherwise it clogs your junk drawer and is ultimately useless. Do you see a For Sale sign out front? Whatever you find out thats beyond a Linked-In search, keep it completely to yourself. Focus on what the director cares about and throw out everything else in the conversation and just talk about that. I did the exact same thing with an ex-boyfriends username from an online dating app. Also, one person Googled me, found out where I live and looked at Google pictures of the exterior of my house (nice trees!), which I thought was creepy. Sit on a board? I think she was talking about professionals. It changes from odd to creepy, the minute they let you know they are surveilling you for no particular reason (like they are letting you know they found garden variety stuff instead of something like a hate speech manifesto against your client base). For reference, I work for a large equipment manufacturer. (Pizza, especially if you are on a college campus.). So a lot of the stuff that can dug up is going to need to be evaluated in light of is this still relevant?and the answer is often no. I have always worked in professions that involve research and knowledge seeking, but I have never found myself needing to know everything about everyone around me because I like boundaries. I think back then if you didnt want your phone number and address to appear in the phone book you could pay to have your information unlisted. If I am driving by and see an interesting looking building I want to know what it is or does, I will not be satisfied until I google it, or if I see a new building under construction and does not have a coming soon xyz store I will want to know what the building will become and will google and try to figure out what the store will be. Are you LGBTQ, Roscoe? Just a comment inspired by #4: speaking as someone on a decluttering mission right now, beware of swag unless you really really know youll use it. There are things I used to be an expert in but dont recall currently because Im focused on the current project/programming language. Ive had to go through the trainings for vendors who want to be able to participate in Federal contracts, and it IS strict. #1 I very much fall into the camp of anything more than a linkedin search is being too nosy. It was highly unnecessary and the person already disclosed that they didnt need sponsorship now or ever on their application. To pull an example from the air that is certainly not my experience, sigh. To me, that's part of what LinkedIn is for. Ideally, there would be a stronger candidate and that would be the reason you didnt move forward with them. Of course that doesnt help when Fergus hasnt updated his address in the database, or Fergusina forgets to mention shes now Fergusina Ferguson-Gerhardt now. Id argue that doing an intensive search for information on a coworker is also creepy. Enough information so that you know where theyll be every Tuesday at 7 is over the line. In the internet age, real privacy where no one can find out personally things about you even if they really, really try is an illusion unless youre willing to sacrifice participation in a lot of society, and even then maybe not. I wanted to connect to them on LinkedIn. Start there. The fact that its pens and notepads is the point. Its WAY different to check out someones LinkedIn profile before a conference call than to run a public records search so you can check out their landscaping. So if I want to do a crazy dance in a cow costume in my bedroom with the blinds open I imagine that someone is looking and maybe even recording me. These are great and productive reasons to look someone up. The alerts make it appear I am leading a life of crime all around the US. Theres definitely a line on how deep you go and even if you dont cross that line, you should never mention your snooping UNLESS you find out something genuinely relevant to HR. I dont think its true that lack of interest in other peoples personal lives, personal habits, or personal history indicates unsuitability for research or investigative careers. You are LITERALLY cultivating an online collection of data about yourself! One time my manager basically implied that he thought I was lying about the business need for a process to go one way just to prove another colleague wrong. I work with them. You probably didnt do much research on drainage commissioner, but hey that name looks familiar. Every once in a while, or if weve had a rough week, well get a surprise $10 labeled cocktail funds or coffee for morale or something like that. So google all you want. *I dont have, nor do I want/need to be part of the LinkedIn machine. On the line between creepy and non-creepy internet searches: personally, I think a basic search is fine. And thats often pretty much it, apart from a great date. First page of results was a woman from my hometown with those same three names that had recently done prison time for money laundering, fraud, identity theft, etc. She eventually resigned, and on her last day she sent an email to the All Staff list to say there were chocolates and sweets in the kitchenbut not the head office one, even though she was spending her last day there. (Eg I have some coworkers that compete in different sports at a decently high level). Im talking about someone randomly googling a coworker, finding their address and driving there when you have no reason to do so. They took the time to map a route to the address and drove there. If I google you and find your home address, thats not a violation. Sadly, at my office the threshold is zero dollars. Even if it werent at lunch time, it generally wouldnt be a huge deal to take home a branded pen or notebook. But no one calculates an odd pen here and there. by | Jun 2, 2022 | george kittle brother ohio state | Jun 2, 2022 | george kittle brother ohio state And while I agree that we shouldnt necessarily hold all internet behavior against people and that in the ancient internet days, yes people werent thinking about it turning into the internet of today, still Im always amazed what folks share publicly online. I think for most companies security is not a question of if they will be hacked but rather when will they be hacked. Yes its not ideal but its also not unusual because in a company of very varied job functions a director wont have done all of them. If they google me to find out what kinds of llamas I have on my llama farm, thats over the line. Ive had plenty of clients have to return them and be marked no gifts on our end. You probably wouldnt be bothered at all by a coworker reading your LinkedIn page, but Im betting youd be creeped out by them going through old facebook pictures from five years ago! Agree. Free food always tastes good! But it also sounds like the training courses are the least of the issues here! I recall zero conversations or warnings about your content being archived and made public. But if you want to know anything about a colleague, you ASK them about it. Of course they should. Its a request for advice about where the line is between looking at easily-available info on a coworker, and creeping. Right now Im honestly just hoping that my new boss wont last long at this job. I dont think you have to do something for everyone else every single time you provide food on-site; most people will get that its not practical to do that every time (and for people who are working remotely by choice, they often consider that a much bigger benefit). Please dont. But to then look them up on Facebook, notice their URL is a kind of username, look THAT up on Twitter, see they tweeted about home buying woes, go look up county records to find their address and go look at their house listing on Zillow etc. They dont stop. You were told. Me neither. I lost count over the years of the number of times folks (almost always tourists) would pull into the dead end, park, and then take pictures or just stare. I got my account back, locked it back down, and removed all the posts. Yes nosy but without any particular ill thought. Its a harmless piece of fluff! I think you are kind of using that as an excuse honestly. I think most of us have a pretty good idea what is appropriate and what isnt without needing to be explicitly told. We had to go over his head and finally it got shifted again to the business manager, who admitted straight out he didnt understand our work but since it was his job to support it, he was supportive. In my last job my boss and I looked up the FB page of a candidate in our entity (I cant remember exactly why we did this, he was probably acting like a jerk though) and it turns out his page was filled with racist and homophobic posts. Some jobs are better about including remote folks than others. With #1, I can kinda understand the interviewer doing a quick google to see if theres anything unscrupulous popping up, but at OldJob, I had one (very young and socially energetic) coworker gleefully digging in deep about potential candidates and trying to gossip about it with our manager who was hiring. I have Googled several of my coworkers, but even if I accidentally found out a coworkers address it would never cross my mind to actually drive by their house. My default is people are hunting (Why? Do I mind that my coworker looked up/at my insta, no. I wouldnt take it as far as doing a background check on my kids friends parents, particularly if youre talking about paid ones, but I certainly want to know basic information about the person Im trusting my childs or my own safety to. I will always Google coworkers now as a result. Not as bad as some of their past changes, and people knew that something was coming so it was a little more possible to protect yourself, but still. I didnt do a deep dive, I think I just looked at Linked in, and professional publications. I think this is a great way to look at it. Looking at publicly broadcast information is in no way the same as using binoculars to look inside someones private home. Theres still the issue of, you cant un-see things.. Truly, she picked the best possible of all of my relationships thus far to Google Image Search. But when I do post I imagine that anyone and everyone is going to see it. My big question has always been, if at the interviewing stage someone had found that blog post, what to do about it? Yeah, thats real. is it unprofessional to get a tattoo on a work trip? I completely understand not wanting your coworkers to know about that tragedy. The internet is a mixed bag and even professional intentions you could stumble on personal information. Judging by the comments here, Im right that many people will in fact find it creepy if you go too far digging into public information. Once people know it, they *will* respond to it. In my industry (the arts) the line between personal and professional is very fuzzy. If you search for my name plus my field, youll get my profile on my employers website, and my LinkedIn and thats about it. Its one thing for law enforcement to take that deep dive because its their job its another kettle of fish entirely for a random coworker to take that deep dive because theyre nosy. Its almost certainly not work relevant that someone has bizzare and bizzarely strong (and in your opinion, highly mistaken) opinions on fan-fic / furries / vaccines / moon landing conspiracy theories / romance novels / anything else. You know that checkbox that you have to click when you sign up, that says I give my permission for this to be published and for other people to see it? You can say to her, Can I ask that you not share my salary with reference-checkers in the future? Anything there I think youre good to look at. I Googled myself yesterday and here are a few things Ive found that I never posted: 5K race times from the past few years, opinion articles I wrote for my college newspaper (this was the early 2000s and the paper didnt have a strong online presence), a pic that someone uploaded to my colleges digital depository that Im not in, but someone thought I was in, a few of my cross country times from high school, results of softball games from the mid-90s, etc. I was just looking at her FB profile. To HR (because theyre driving this ridiculous policy). I think its a leap to assume that this was punitive. You can try to justify it all you want by saying the person posted it to the internet on purpose, but it wasnt for you. I think its kind of like gossip. So I was effectively searching colleagues all the time because I dont carry everyones extensions/office locations in my head and keeping a local version was very much frowned upon by senior management. I dont agree that putting stuff on the internet is an automatic invitation for everyone to look at it. My point is people are going to do it. Why do you care so much? #5 I think its great to do this!

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