It's not just AA. Airlines all publish minimum connection times (MCT). So I booked the same itinerary again for this Thanksgiving, but I recently looked at it again and it only had a 45 minute connection time in DOH! Travel and health restrictions by destination Check flight status We recommend you arrive to the airport at least 3 hours before your scheduled departure for international flights. But the time we landed, the connection flight departed. Theres insane amount of international traffic coming into the JFK Airport at all hours of the day Its going to get backed up at times, so have a little patience. Appreciate the help . How much additional time would you suggest for retrieving & re-checking a bag? And even if they make the connection, will their bags? 25-minute layovers arent well suited for your checked luggage. I get that planes only make money when theyre flying, and that airlines have heavily banked hubs, and that customers want itineraries that look like they have the shortest possible travel time. I think youll be ok, but you will have to hustle. And if you think that's bad, let me tell you about the time AA kept us on plane on runway for hours then cancelled because I quote they were not permitting overtime for the pilots and then when I called to rebook the moron mistypes and books me for 12/26 instead of 2/26. And, it's no fun when that happens. The day after I got my luggage. I'm a free agent for US3 flights anymore because, well, they all generally suck for one reason or another - product, miles, whatever - and AA insists on doing this to us. My rule is two hours minimum for domestic and three hours international as you never know if the first leg will fly on time or if you can deplane in a timely manner so you can try to catch the second leg. Im asking partially bc we may try to meet a friend who happens to be staying nearby. Flight attendants tried to calm me but.they confessed that it was just a couple of gates shy of the longest distance I could walk between the terminals. I had to be on board at 9:35 p.m Hey Jim! I started not to book it because of such a short connection time, but it was the only flight I could book where I could get to Los Angeles before 11am. I give up and head to my new gate where all the other passengers have already arrived and sat down and I try to ask the agent for proper boarding pass because what I was given had no seat listed and of course she gives me attitude and doesn't help. Fingers crossed and will probably remain crossed until we actually board the plane. From Doha to New York, which arrives at JFK (terminal 8) at 3pm EDT - operated by Qatar. We departed BRU with 2hrs delay due to a technical issue and once I arrived at LIS they where just starting the boarding for the LIS-GRU and I was allready out of their system to continue my flight. While deplaning in ten minutes - then, taking zero minutes to walk and board your connecting flight fifteen minutes prior to boarding - and making a connecting flight departing 25-minutes later may smack of a need for a power to time travel, lets view this through the prism of reality. Theyve only given a 45 minute transfer time. Hi what about the baggage? Itll simply be a matter of walking from one plane to the next (with no security checks). Connecting from a domestic flight to an international flight at JFK will require at least an hour. Usually time for a bathroom stop and thats it. And the terminal itself was huge to travel from one extreme concourse to another. We don't care if the passengers make the flight! Outside of banner ads published through the Boarding Area network, this compensation does not impact how and where products appear on this site. American Airlines has a 25-minute minimum connection time at Austin Airport. I call again and yet another A.B.B. In Ben's defense, the ROI simply isn't there. Often, selecting better connection times (1+ hour) result in higher fares (again, at least in my experience), which is annoying. What I have observed is that if you want a longer connection time, then there is a cost increase associated with that convenience. I would never book this, I think my average delay time on AA is >25 minutes, unless you assume your connecting flight's pushback is also subject to AA's MDT ("Minimum Delay Time") of 25 minutes. LIS was adviced by BRU that we had that delay and so suspend our next leg. Its so frustrating flying with them. American's ground staff get stuck dealing with the chaos. If I do miss a connection, every incursion, they see my status and assist in getting me where I need to go. I had a carry on roller suitcase and a large personal bag. From New York to Raleigh, which departs from JFK (terminal 8) at 4:19pm EDT - operated by American Airlines. If, for some reason, you feel you can't make a connection within the allotted time, contact. However, my minimum would be 1 hour just so I would have enough time to relax and grab a bite to eat. Assuming your entire itinerary is part of the same ticket, you wont need to retrieve and re-check your luggage. How much additional time would you suggest for retrieving & re-checking a bag? One of my regular flights is LAX to Austin. We were about 10 minutes late and I made it on the next plane just as they made the final boarding call and passengers on that flight giving me dirty looks thinking I'm just lollygagging and holding them up. Im coming in at Terminal 5 and departing international at Terminal 1. We have a connecting flight in terminal 7 to Buenos Aires at 3:25 pm with Aerolinas Argentinas. Good luck! Our connecting flight is departing at 10:29pm on JetBlue. As the name suggests, this is the minimum amount of time that you need to plan for a connection at an airport, as an airline wont sell you a shorter connection than that. One of my regular flights is LAX to Austin. I was going from LGA to ORD with 30min connection in PHL. 25 minutes seems extreme for Austin (where all the gates are close to one another), and it seems even more absurd for Phoenix, where you have a huge terminal. I was especially upset because even though it was tagged priority, AA didnt seem Just experienced this yesterday doing an AA international arrival and domestic departure at PHX. But starting at BRU I don't have always the option MUC to connect. There are always people on the flight connecting to New Orleans and almost every time we are asked to let these passengers off first because of the tight connection. Running to your next gate, which is two or three terminals away, is the only option. Hi Scott, I will arrive at JFK at terminal 4 and have 3 hours before departure the international flight at Terminal 1. Only way would be if there were other flight options from AUS-DFW-TPA that would work if you miss connection and those flights had lots of empty seats. My home airport is Phoenix, 25 MCT is crazy if you are trying to get from the High number A gates to any of the B gates or vise versa, even if your 1st class it would still be a dash. Arriving on a commmuter flight and connecting internationally is impossible in less than 1 hour, especially if you are a disabled wheel chair user. The only question is, do they have a protocol in place to alert the connecting gate agent that you're coming right off another plane, so they don't just declare you've missed the flight and close the door. Hi Andrea an hour and 25 minutes is going to be tight, but the thing that will make it easy(ish) is the fact that you wont have to change terminals. Its highly annoying and happens frequently. The following MCTs exist STATION CONNECTION TIME ARR CARRIER ARR FLIGHT # DEPARTURE CARRIER DEPART FLIGHT # ARR DEP STATUS HHMM Carrier Codeshare Indicator Codeshare Operating Range Start Range End Codeshare Indicator Codeshare Operating Range Start Range End There was always some sort of issue. Ive never missed going between high A and high B gates when on time. Were you flying international or domestically to a smaller service airport? If your trying to get a plane in dallas or LA it takes more than 25 min. AA has been offering itins with ridiculously short "please misconnect me" itins to me for months now, including 25-minute connection times in PHX and 35 to 55 minute connection times elsewhere. 2 hours is going to be tight, and I will admit that Id be nervous about doing an international to international connection (with a terminal change) in that amount of time. Thank you! Sad considering there are 3 closet-sized admirals clubs to chose from, the worst centurion in existence (not run by Amex) and its sister escape lounge. Well, don't know how that works in the US but back in time I was Flying BRU-LIS-GRU with a theoretical stop over in LIS of about 2hrs (which in practice was/is always much more). Since you're talking about connecting in AMS and JFK, I imagine you are looking at flying Delta/SkyTeam. Hi Scott, Thanks for this review. We For the longest time I refused to fly on American because of the nasty attitudes of their staff (angry black bitches) and how they screwed me over multiple times. It's especially a problem at MIA, where they don't have elevators at every gate, so they have to take it a few gates away and then bring it from there (other airports carry it up the jetbridge stairs, it only weighs 120 pounds, and can be disassembled). 1 hour and 40 minutes will be easy! Theyll just put you on the next one (automatically) and you wont have to wait long. It would have likely prompted them to change their connection time to at least 40 minutes. But what I am more worried about is whether the transfer time of 2 hours is sufficient from an overseas visitor. Have a great trip! A good rule of thumb when booking a connecting flight: The incoming flight was delayed by 15 minute so technically there was only 20 minute transfer. When we landed in Miami ,we had 56 minutes to go from arrival , check passport , collect bags , thru customs ( 25 minutes) to boarding desk ! I have a KLM flight arriving at JFK from Amsterdam with a layover of only 1:45 before my connecting flight to Norfolk all on 1 ticket and no terminal change. Afraid it will take a long time to de-plane, get luggage, go through customs, get to correct terminal, etc What do you think? Unless youre in 1st, always give yourself an hour between connections. And with flights still full it's doubtful there's going to be an open seat towards the front of the plane available at the gate. I fly every other day some weeks and constantly lookup ticket prices. My American flights out of Knoxville usually connect in Charlotte, Dallas, or Chicago. An advantage of this would be access to cheaper fare inventory when the system creates a connecting itinerary. American Airlines is the absolute worst, run by brain dead fools. Including being in London and American Airlines had no plane to fly us home in. Hi, were flying from Toronto to JFK (Feb 6, 2023) our first time to have layover in US, what do we need to provide . With a little thought and planning, a 25-minute l connection time will be easy and seamless as a brisk walk around the neighborhood. I started not to book it because of such a short connection time, but it was the only flight I could book where I could get to Los Angeles before 11am. Right across the hallway at T-20 and I was first off the plane. International to domestic will require nearly all of that 1 hour and 25 minutes IMHO since youll have to do the customs/immigration thing. I would say you could do a 25 minute connection if your flight was on time. Have a good trip! On the other hand, Id probably view a 25-minute connection in Austin the same as a 40-minute connection in Dallas, in terms of risk of misconnecting. The airline will most assuredly not give your seat away to a standby passenger in this scenario. Other one world and partner airlines use the following: T-1: Japan Airlines and Royal Air Maroc T-4: Etihad T-5: Aer Lingus and Hawaiian Airlines T-7: Alaska Airlines T-8: see above Heres what I would personally want for a comfortable (no stress) layover at JFK: Making a connection from one domestic flight to another at JFK (same airline, no terminal change) is super easy. Unfortunately I don't have always the choice but for sure, in Europe my favorite airport is MUC. Its an interesting one. I am arriving JFK Delta from Barcelona. Study the terminal maps (and the location of the AirTrain stations) ahead of time! It can be difficult to find this information on an airline's . We had almost the same problem with American Airlines coming from the Bahamas to Miami ! Keep in mind that just because you can book an itinerary with the minimum connection time doesnt mean that you should. Let the buyer be ware! You have to be extremely polite about it though, as not everyone will be sympathetic to your situation. I would love your input. This means that you can just walk to your connecting gate without going through any additional checkpoints. Personally, thats cutting it a little bit too close, but its entirely possible if you hustle. Years ago I was coming back from Argentina to Dallas. WHY they do that is just stupid!! This problem invariably occurs because of airline instigated changes as I book months in advance. Those carriers might not operate in . I am thinking of doing ICN-JFK-BDA with KE and DL. My arrival gate was :01 minute walk - the next gate over (score one in the WIN column). Absolutely absurd especially now when such a large percentage of flights are late. I have also seen 30 min connections on DL in Atlanta. Each airport has its own list of minimum connection times. I also try to take the first flight out of any city to insure that most likely that flight will be on time and many times "early" into the arrival gate. Luckily it's a 6-hour layover so you have plenty of time, but alsoit's a 6-HOUR LAYOVER AND YOU CHANGE AIRPORTS. Hey Christina yeah, 30 minutes sounds scary (itd even make me pucker up a little lol) but its super easy to get all the way from one end of Terminal 5 to the other in no time flat. Then, proceed to the security checkpoint to get back into T4 for your flight to CLT. For the longest time I refused to fly on American because of the nasty attitudes of their staff (angry black bitches) and how they screwed me over multiple times. Experienced flyers look at a connection like that and say "nuh uh, not way". I wouldnt want to do an International to domestic transfer at JFK (one that required a terminal change) in less than 3 hours. I can say Ive had many 29 minute layovers at ATL with Delta and had zero issues. Would you book an itinerary like this? There are always people on the flight connecting to New Orleans and almost every time we are asked to let these passengers off first because of the tight connection. Minimum connection times at the John F Kennedy Airport in New York can be as low as 30 minutes for domestic flights (if you're flying the same airline). You wont have any issues if your inbound flight is on time. Yes it can be purchased as a single ticket and it is operated by Delta. 4:35 am to 3:25 pm. Not sure it still the case. It's not like you'd get off an AA flight and have to take the tram to another concourse for your connection. Try the connection in Chicago. As a counter(data)point, I've had hundreds of connections <1hr and misconnected fewer than ten times. Note that there are 3 separate AirTrain lines: the Airline Terminals Train, the Jamaica Station Train, and the Howard Beach Train. The Airline Terminals Train runs counterclockwise. Often, after booking, AA will change my outbound flights forcing a tight connection and I have to phone to change it My personal policy outbound on international itineraries is 2 hours +/- 15 minutes MCT given that my international flight, if a misconnect occurs, forces a 24 hour delay. Its not the 25min MCT that kills you on American. For journeys between terminals, it's free. @ Sel, D. -- Wow, good catch. This is one of those internal operations things that AA wouldn't actually answer because some Lean Six Sigma'd it, customers be damned, and that's just the way things are. I would only call the high A gates club closet-sized. Just walk from one plane to the next. 2. Air France doesnt fly from JFK to Prague nonstop. Hi Ingrid an hour and 45 minutes will be no problem considering that you wont have to change terminals. My personal policy outbound on international itineraries is 2 hours +/- 15 minutes MCT given that my international flight, if a misconnect occurs, forces a 24 hour delay. After booking I became aware that even though we connecting at JFK and not leaving the airport we need to clear .
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